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		<title>By: CL</title>
		<link>http://www.joannageary.com/2009/09/29/looking-into-the-guts-of-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-2596</link>
		<dc:creator>CL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 21:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Guy Clapperton&#039;s point that journalists write for their readers, but so many stories, especially in hard news, are written to inflame readers&#039; base instincts rather than inform them.

This leads to right of reply that&#039;s buried in the bottom of the piece, an agressive headline that bears no relation to the facts and &#039;framing&#039; of stories that misses out so many facts either to appeal to readers&#039; anxieties or to fit something juicy into 300 words or a 3 minute report.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Guy Clapperton&#8217;s point that journalists write for their readers, but so many stories, especially in hard news, are written to inflame readers&#8217; base instincts rather than inform them.</p>
<p>This leads to right of reply that&#8217;s buried in the bottom of the piece, an agressive headline that bears no relation to the facts and &#8216;framing&#8217; of stories that misses out so many facts either to appeal to readers&#8217; anxieties or to fit something juicy into 300 words or a 3 minute report.</p>
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		<title>By: RV</title>
		<link>http://www.joannageary.com/2009/09/29/looking-into-the-guts-of-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-2595</link>
		<dc:creator>RV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 21:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In a world where people think the pursuit of objectivity is essential to your job, how easy/practical is it to practice true transparency?&quot; 

Frankly, it&#039;s very difficult, not least because when we mess up online there will always be the school of thought that says &#039;midnight burial - Now!&#039;. 
The medium allows us to change the message as radically as we want, or simply to make the message disappear. 
But, aside from all the ethics of the debate, I just think it&#039;s confusing for readers when we simply change stories online without showing how these changes have been made. 
And reader comments can often end up looking irrelevant, or just plain odd, as an article updates and the point they are responding to is lost. 
I like the idea of transparency but if I&#039;m being realistic, as newsrooms slowly evolve in a digital age, I guess it&#039;s going to be more a case of striving for an ideal that we probably aren&#039;t always going to achieve. 
This isn&#039;t just an issue for the news industry either. I don&#039;t think anyone is objective in their job; we are all partial and see things from a point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In a world where people think the pursuit of objectivity is essential to your job, how easy/practical is it to practice true transparency?&#8221; </p>
<p>Frankly, it&#8217;s very difficult, not least because when we mess up online there will always be the school of thought that says &#8216;midnight burial &#8211; Now!&#8217;.<br />
The medium allows us to change the message as radically as we want, or simply to make the message disappear.<br />
But, aside from all the ethics of the debate, I just think it&#8217;s confusing for readers when we simply change stories online without showing how these changes have been made.<br />
And reader comments can often end up looking irrelevant, or just plain odd, as an article updates and the point they are responding to is lost.<br />
I like the idea of transparency but if I&#8217;m being realistic, as newsrooms slowly evolve in a digital age, I guess it&#8217;s going to be more a case of striving for an ideal that we probably aren&#8217;t always going to achieve.<br />
This isn&#8217;t just an issue for the news industry either. I don&#8217;t think anyone is objective in their job; we are all partial and see things from a point of view.</p>
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		<title>By: One Man and His Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.joannageary.com/2009/09/29/looking-into-the-guts-of-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-2590</link>
		<dc:creator>One Man and His Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 17:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Links for the Weekend Ahead...&lt;/strong&gt;

Because, let&#039;s face it, there&#039;s no way you should be reading this on a Friday evening. :-)Steve Yelvington has a very useful guide to seven things you need to bear in mind while developing communities.&#160;Joanna Geary breaks here blog silence......</description>
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<p>Because, let&#8217;s face it, there&#8217;s no way you should be reading this on a Friday evening. <img src='http://www.joannageary.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> Steve Yelvington has a very useful guide to seven things you need to bear in mind while developing communities.&nbsp;Joanna Geary breaks here blog silence&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Hanson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Hanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 08:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Guy Clapperton&#039;s point that journalists write for their readers, but so many stories, especially in hard news, are written to inflame readers&#039; base instincts rather than inform them.

This leads to right of reply that&#039;s buried in the bottom of the piece, an agressive headline that bears no relation to the facts and &#039;framing&#039; of stories that misses out so many facts either to appeal to readers&#039; anxieties or to fit something juicy into 300 words or a 3 minute report.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Guy Clapperton&#8217;s point that journalists write for their readers, but so many stories, especially in hard news, are written to inflame readers&#8217; base instincts rather than inform them.</p>
<p>This leads to right of reply that&#8217;s buried in the bottom of the piece, an agressive headline that bears no relation to the facts and &#8216;framing&#8217; of stories that misses out so many facts either to appeal to readers&#8217; anxieties or to fit something juicy into 300 words or a 3 minute report.</p>
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		<title>By: Alison Gow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alison Gow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In a world where people think the pursuit of objectivity is essential to your job, how easy/practical is it to practice true transparency?&quot; 

Frankly, it&#039;s very difficult, not least because when we mess up online there will always be the school of thought that says &#039;midnight burial - Now!&#039;. 
The medium allows us to change the message as radically as we want, or simply to make the message disappear. 
But, aside from all the ethics of the debate, I just think it&#039;s confusing for readers when we simply change stories online without showing how these changes have been made. 
And reader comments can often end up looking irrelevant, or just plain odd, as an article updates and the point they are responding to is lost. 
I like the idea of transparency but if I&#039;m being realistic, as newsrooms slowly evolve in a digital age, I guess it&#039;s going to be more a case of striving for an ideal that we probably aren&#039;t always going to achieve. 
This isn&#039;t just an issue for the news industry either. I don&#039;t think anyone is objective in their job; we are all partial and see things from a point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In a world where people think the pursuit of objectivity is essential to your job, how easy/practical is it to practice true transparency?&#8221; </p>
<p>Frankly, it&#8217;s very difficult, not least because when we mess up online there will always be the school of thought that says &#8216;midnight burial &#8211; Now!&#8217;.<br />
The medium allows us to change the message as radically as we want, or simply to make the message disappear.<br />
But, aside from all the ethics of the debate, I just think it&#8217;s confusing for readers when we simply change stories online without showing how these changes have been made.<br />
And reader comments can often end up looking irrelevant, or just plain odd, as an article updates and the point they are responding to is lost.<br />
I like the idea of transparency but if I&#8217;m being realistic, as newsrooms slowly evolve in a digital age, I guess it&#8217;s going to be more a case of striving for an ideal that we probably aren&#8217;t always going to achieve.<br />
This isn&#8217;t just an issue for the news industry either. I don&#8217;t think anyone is objective in their job; we are all partial and see things from a point of view.</p>
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		<title>By: Recommended Links for September 30th &#124; Alex Gamela - Digital Media &#38; Journalism</title>
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		<dc:creator>Recommended Links for September 30th &#124; Alex Gamela - Digital Media &#38; Journalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Looking into the guts of journalism [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Story Review &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Bookmarks for September 24, 2009 to September 29, 2009</title>
		<link>http://www.joannageary.com/2009/09/29/looking-into-the-guts-of-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-2566</link>
		<dc:creator>Story Review &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Bookmarks for September 24, 2009 to September 29, 2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Looking into the guts of journalism &#124; Joanna Geary &#8211; &#8220;Objectivity in journalism may be a honorable aim but, if you’re going to be pragmatic about it, the idea that it exists in reality is total bunk.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Looking into the guts of journalism | Joanna Geary &#8211; &#8220;Objectivity in journalism may be a honorable aim but, if you’re going to be pragmatic about it, the idea that it exists in reality is total bunk.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dilyan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dilyan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Joanna

I stand corrected. You are right, of course, there is a risk that transparency can turn to bite your ass.

But I have to say I think the AP was laughed at because they were seen to have disclosed that memo by mistake. If they had published it with an intro explaining how that way they were bringing readers closer to the process of journalism... well, they&#039;d probably still get thrashed because the blogosphere hates them. But you see what I mean, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Joanna</p>
<p>I stand corrected. You are right, of course, there is a risk that transparency can turn to bite your ass.</p>
<p>But I have to say I think the AP was laughed at because they were seen to have disclosed that memo by mistake. If they had published it with an intro explaining how that way they were bringing readers closer to the process of journalism&#8230; well, they&#8217;d probably still get thrashed because the blogosphere hates them. But you see what I mean, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Louise Bolotin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Louise Bolotin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m also in favour of transparency over objectivity. Much also depends on what we&#039;re writing. News reporting should always be as free from bias of any sort as possible. Background pieces, features and reviews are inevitably going to be coloured by something of the writer&#039;s own views. That&#039;s most apparent in op-ed columns, of course, but even a feature of some sort - say, a piece on single mums study at university - is going to be shaped even before writing by the journalist&#039;s approach to it. Then there&#039;s the importance of declaring any interests - the Guardian has strict guidelines, for example, about not interviewing family members or stating if you have a connection to a company. That kind of transparency goes a long way to offsetting criticism or suspicion that a journalist may have an agenda of their own. Guy&#039;s comments about being biased for a readership also hold true. This certainly makes a huge difference to the reviewing I do for several clients.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m also in favour of transparency over objectivity. Much also depends on what we&#8217;re writing. News reporting should always be as free from bias of any sort as possible. Background pieces, features and reviews are inevitably going to be coloured by something of the writer&#8217;s own views. That&#8217;s most apparent in op-ed columns, of course, but even a feature of some sort &#8211; say, a piece on single mums study at university &#8211; is going to be shaped even before writing by the journalist&#8217;s approach to it. Then there&#8217;s the importance of declaring any interests &#8211; the Guardian has strict guidelines, for example, about not interviewing family members or stating if you have a connection to a company. That kind of transparency goes a long way to offsetting criticism or suspicion that a journalist may have an agenda of their own. Guy&#8217;s comments about being biased for a readership also hold true. This certainly makes a huge difference to the reviewing I do for several clients.</p>
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		<title>By: Joanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dilyan

I don&#039;t agree and I think you&#039;re missing my point. A news org may have nothing to be ashamed of, but that doesn&#039;t mean an audience weaned on the objectivity myth is going to see it that way.

Sarah&#039;s link was an excellent example. I don&#039;t see anything to be too ashamed of in AP&#039;s leaked notes. Yet those who republished them couldn&#039;t help but intimate that something about them stunk. 

A news organisation that embraces total transparency puts itself at the mercy of such critics. Whilst I believe a policy of total transparency would, in the long term, be better for journalism, the pragamatist in me suspects to execute it any time soon would be suicide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dilyan</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t agree and I think you&#8217;re missing my point. A news org may have nothing to be ashamed of, but that doesn&#8217;t mean an audience weaned on the objectivity myth is going to see it that way.</p>
<p>Sarah&#8217;s link was an excellent example. I don&#8217;t see anything to be too ashamed of in AP&#8217;s leaked notes. Yet those who republished them couldn&#8217;t help but intimate that something about them stunk. </p>
<p>A news organisation that embraces total transparency puts itself at the mercy of such critics. Whilst I believe a policy of total transparency would, in the long term, be better for journalism, the pragamatist in me suspects to execute it any time soon would be suicide.</p>
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