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	<title>Comments on: QIT #6 News and music are incomparable</title>
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		<title>By: &#160; Weekend reading&#160;by&#160;andydickinson.net</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#160; Weekend reading&#160;by&#160;andydickinson.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 08:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] QIT #6 News and music are incomparable &#124; Joanna Geary - &#8220;the news industry doesn’t really believe its content has any value other than to provide structure around which to place advertising.&#8221; and despite it&#8217;s best efforts it will struggle to turn that thinking around [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] QIT #6 News and music are incomparable | Joanna Geary &#8211; &#8220;the news industry doesn’t really believe its content has any value other than to provide structure around which to place advertising.&#8221; and despite it&#8217;s best efforts it will struggle to turn that thinking around [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dilyan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dilyan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 19:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Replace the words &quot;music&quot; and &quot;hear&quot; in that excerpt with &quot;news&quot; and &quot;read&quot;. Can you imagine how hard it would be to enforce that? It&#039;s as hard for music firms; that is why more music is being pirated than sold.

If we accept that mankind is generally on the right track (though it sometimes takes a roundabout way) and things on the whole are developing for the good, then we must also accept news is either going to be needed and have a future or become obsolete and die off. There&#039;s nothing we could do about changing the direction of evolution: and why would we.

But that&#039;s just pseudo-philosophic blabber. You&#039;re right; the news industry (as in: its managers) doesn’t really believe its content has any value other than to provide structure around which to place advertising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Replace the words &#8220;music&#8221; and &#8220;hear&#8221; in that excerpt with &#8220;news&#8221; and &#8220;read&#8221;. Can you imagine how hard it would be to enforce that? It&#8217;s as hard for music firms; that is why more music is being pirated than sold.</p>
<p>If we accept that mankind is generally on the right track (though it sometimes takes a roundabout way) and things on the whole are developing for the good, then we must also accept news is either going to be needed and have a future or become obsolete and die off. There&#8217;s nothing we could do about changing the direction of evolution: and why would we.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s just pseudo-philosophic blabber. You&#8217;re right; the news industry (as in: its managers) doesn’t really believe its content has any value other than to provide structure around which to place advertising.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Ashton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Ashton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 14:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first thought was surely PRS doesn&#039;t apply to playing radio in public places since the station has already paid a fee, funded by their advertisers / license fee payers. It would seem from that document (the filename for which needs replacing with .pdf btw) that I&#039;d be wrong to think that and music via radio stations is paid for twice. Which is interesting. 

Anyway, if I&#039;d have been right I&#039;d have suggested newspapers in cafes, etc are similar to radio played in cafes as the advertising pays of them. In fact it&#039;s more attractive to advertisers to have more readers than purchasers, no?

But I&#039;m not right because the music recording industry is really weird and not something you can usefully use for analogies. ;)

As for the value of news, I think everyone knows that 50p or whatever per paper doesn&#039;t equal the cost of gathering that news. As an outsider I&#039;d guess it&#039;s something like 10% sales, 90% advertising? So while the true cost of the paper might be £5 there&#039;s no way I&#039;m going to pay that on a daily basis. (I might, however, pay that for something like The New Yorker every week. But only offline with the cover art being a major draw.)

Which brings us to subsidies. Assume you saw this:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2009/feb/12/newspapers-investigative-journalism-endowments

The idea is flawed in a number of places (not least that good solid reporting isn&#039;t always popular) but at least there&#039;s a president. The news gathering part of your industry has been subsidised by the advertising gathering part for decades. Switching to another form of subsidy shouldn&#039;t be conceptually hard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first thought was surely PRS doesn&#8217;t apply to playing radio in public places since the station has already paid a fee, funded by their advertisers / license fee payers. It would seem from that document (the filename for which needs replacing with .pdf btw) that I&#8217;d be wrong to think that and music via radio stations is paid for twice. Which is interesting. </p>
<p>Anyway, if I&#8217;d have been right I&#8217;d have suggested newspapers in cafes, etc are similar to radio played in cafes as the advertising pays of them. In fact it&#8217;s more attractive to advertisers to have more readers than purchasers, no?</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m not right because the music recording industry is really weird and not something you can usefully use for analogies. <img src='http://www.joannageary.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As for the value of news, I think everyone knows that 50p or whatever per paper doesn&#8217;t equal the cost of gathering that news. As an outsider I&#8217;d guess it&#8217;s something like 10% sales, 90% advertising? So while the true cost of the paper might be £5 there&#8217;s no way I&#8217;m going to pay that on a daily basis. (I might, however, pay that for something like The New Yorker every week. But only offline with the cover art being a major draw.)</p>
<p>Which brings us to subsidies. Assume you saw this:<br />
<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2009/feb/12/newspapers-investigative-journalism-endowments" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2009/feb/12/newspapers-investigative-journalism-endowments</a></p>
<p>The idea is flawed in a number of places (not least that good solid reporting isn&#8217;t always popular) but at least there&#8217;s a president. The news gathering part of your industry has been subsidised by the advertising gathering part for decades. Switching to another form of subsidy shouldn&#8217;t be conceptually hard.</p>
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