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	<title>Comments on: O2&#8217;s &#8220;free Web Bolt On&#8221; is not free at all!</title>
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		<title>By: Riz</title>
		<link>http://www.joannageary.com/2008/08/07/o2s-free-web-bolt-on-is-not-free-at-all/comment-page-1/#comment-2324</link>
		<dc:creator>Riz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I&#039;ve just upgraded my mobile contract with carphone warehouse. They have just given me a free bolt on promotion with unlimited internet with a 200MB fair usage policy. 

I need to know if I can have GMAIL setup on my N96 to send and receive emails on the go without going over the 200MB as I don&#039;t have an idea of how much i will use in a month. 

Also I use fring some times so can I also use that without going over 200MB. Please advise.</description>
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<p>I&#8217;ve just upgraded my mobile contract with carphone warehouse. They have just given me a free bolt on promotion with unlimited internet with a 200MB fair usage policy. </p>
<p>I need to know if I can have GMAIL setup on my N96 to send and receive emails on the go without going over the 200MB as I don&#8217;t have an idea of how much i will use in a month. </p>
<p>Also I use fring some times so can I also use that without going over 200MB. Please advise.</p>
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		<title>By: David Accorsini</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Accorsini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;Unlimited&quot; * &quot;Fair Usage&quot; scandal needs consumer legislation. 

I don&#039;t think it is unreasonable to say that the vast majority of internet users or 100% of users I have spoken to feel conned by companies using these unethical tactics. 

You see, here in the UK, what business wants business gets. 

Throttling communication can only lead to slower economic growth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;Unlimited&#8221; * &#8220;Fair Usage&#8221; scandal needs consumer legislation. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it is unreasonable to say that the vast majority of internet users or 100% of users I have spoken to feel conned by companies using these unethical tactics. </p>
<p>You see, here in the UK, what business wants business gets. </p>
<p>Throttling communication can only lead to slower economic growth.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Howes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Howes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Q, 

Internet service providers have abused the term &quot;unlimited&quot; for quite some time.

I&#039;m with BT Broadband, with their &quot;unlimited&quot; option 3, however if I use the Internet too much, the first thing they do is slow my connection down from 4Mb to 256kb (and I&#039;m advertised 8Mb but I can&#039;t get that due to signal noise), and a stern letter if I fall out of their ambiguous, and imaginary fair usage policy.  20GB of data in a month should set the major throttling off for the following month.  BT are yet to give an quantitative figures for their usage policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Q, </p>
<p>Internet service providers have abused the term &#8220;unlimited&#8221; for quite some time.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m with BT Broadband, with their &#8220;unlimited&#8221; option 3, however if I use the Internet too much, the first thing they do is slow my connection down from 4Mb to 256kb (and I&#8217;m advertised 8Mb but I can&#8217;t get that due to signal noise), and a stern letter if I fall out of their ambiguous, and imaginary fair usage policy.  20GB of data in a month should set the major throttling off for the following month.  BT are yet to give an quantitative figures for their usage policy.</p>
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		<title>By: ~Q~</title>
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		<dc:creator>~Q~</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 22:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this is an old thread, but i just have to add my 2 cents...

To me it is quite simple, UNLIMITED means UNLIMITED.

To use any small print or T&amp;C&#039;s to subvert the meaning of UNLIMITED is an insult to peoples intelligence, and the law should not allow it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this is an old thread, but i just have to add my 2 cents&#8230;</p>
<p>To me it is quite simple, UNLIMITED means UNLIMITED.</p>
<p>To use any small print or T&amp;C&#8217;s to subvert the meaning of UNLIMITED is an insult to peoples intelligence, and the law should not allow it.</p>
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		<title>By: Esdee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Esdee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This O2 company with its fair use policy in relation to bolt-ons and tarrifs terms and condions to only use for private, personal and non-commercial use is plain SUPPRESSIVE and somebody should stop them enforcing this.  I should be able to phone whoever I like whenever I like for personal or business use on any tarrif.  THAT is MY business.  There are good people out there trying to help others and wanting to make something of themselves aswell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This O2 company with its fair use policy in relation to bolt-ons and tarrifs terms and condions to only use for private, personal and non-commercial use is plain SUPPRESSIVE and somebody should stop them enforcing this.  I should be able to phone whoever I like whenever I like for personal or business use on any tarrif.  THAT is MY business.  There are good people out there trying to help others and wanting to make something of themselves aswell.</p>
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		<title>By: joannageary</title>
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		<dc:creator>joannageary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I am slowly (in between work) trying to track down the fair use policies of UK mobile internet providers, just to compare.

In additon the power of Twitter (thank you - you know who you are!) has resulted in me obtaining the contact details of a senior chap in O2. I will get in touch with him in the next few days and ask him about O2&#039;s policy on web mobile.

Has anyone got any questions for him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I am slowly (in between work) trying to track down the fair use policies of UK mobile internet providers, just to compare.</p>
<p>In additon the power of Twitter (thank you &#8211; you know who you are!) has resulted in me obtaining the contact details of a senior chap in O2. I will get in touch with him in the next few days and ask him about O2&#8217;s policy on web mobile.</p>
<p>Has anyone got any questions for him?</p>
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		<title>By: Geraint</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geraint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hay Jo,

O2&#039;s G3 network is probably cracking under the strain of all those shinny new iphones,  Its already reported that there data network is running much slower that other UK carriers.  At a guess there probably pissed at the level of upstream data your using as apposed to actual downloads.

Your probably going to have to ration your qik&#039;s sessions or risk getting charged..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hay Jo,</p>
<p>O2&#8217;s G3 network is probably cracking under the strain of all those shinny new iphones,  Its already reported that there data network is running much slower that other UK carriers.  At a guess there probably pissed at the level of upstream data your using as apposed to actual downloads.</p>
<p>Your probably going to have to ration your qik&#8217;s sessions or risk getting charged..</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Ashton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Ashton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 23:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@hubba hubba

The technologies Jo wants to use her phone for are no passive consuming ones. She&#039;s engaging with the world and relaying that TO the internet, not merely absorbing content from it. She&#039;s creating her own media based on her personal experiences in the world. It arguably makes one more aware of their surroundings, rather like walking around with a camera actively looking for things to photograph and, in doing so, becoming more aware of the details.

To your &quot;Enjoy the world around you&quot; I&#039;d add &quot;and share its wonder with others.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@hubba hubba</p>
<p>The technologies Jo wants to use her phone for are no passive consuming ones. She&#8217;s engaging with the world and relaying that TO the internet, not merely absorbing content from it. She&#8217;s creating her own media based on her personal experiences in the world. It arguably makes one more aware of their surroundings, rather like walking around with a camera actively looking for things to photograph and, in doing so, becoming more aware of the details.</p>
<p>To your &#8220;Enjoy the world around you&#8221; I&#8217;d add &#8220;and share its wonder with others.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dom Barnes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dom Barnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 22:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think half the problem is that they advertise &quot;Unlimited usage&quot; which always comes with the proviso of a Fair Use Policy. That basically gives them free range to charge you if you&#039;re using it too much.
I have the iPhone with the unlimited access and use it fairly hard. I use about 150-200MB a month, and have had no issues. Its a lot better than the 10MB I paid £5 for with Three on my last phone.
Another issue is these companies not knowing what you can do with a phone nowadays, as you say, with Qik, and Bambuser, Fring, etc. They don&#039;t plan for this stuff, which takes advantage of the upstream and the downstream.

Well I hope that they don&#039;t give you trouble. Fight them. Or tell them you will take your business elsewhere.
They should really just offer a truly unlimited package for a bit more money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think half the problem is that they advertise &#8220;Unlimited usage&#8221; which always comes with the proviso of a Fair Use Policy. That basically gives them free range to charge you if you&#8217;re using it too much.<br />
I have the iPhone with the unlimited access and use it fairly hard. I use about 150-200MB a month, and have had no issues. Its a lot better than the 10MB I paid £5 for with Three on my last phone.<br />
Another issue is these companies not knowing what you can do with a phone nowadays, as you say, with Qik, and Bambuser, Fring, etc. They don&#8217;t plan for this stuff, which takes advantage of the upstream and the downstream.</p>
<p>Well I hope that they don&#8217;t give you trouble. Fight them. Or tell them you will take your business elsewhere.<br />
They should really just offer a truly unlimited package for a bit more money.</p>
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		<title>By: hubba hubba</title>
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		<dc:creator>hubba hubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 21:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, every mobile network under the sun (and many ISPs) claim “unlimited” this that and the other – and of course there&#039;s always a crafty disclaimer that unlimited doesn&#039;t mean unlimited – so hell knows how any of them get away with it. On that point, I&#039;ll get my pitch fork and join everyone else in the rebellion.

Unfortunately, however wrong it is that “unlimited” is actually limited – 02&#039;s little get-out clause isn&#039;t really that buried. I&#039;ve just been to their online shop, clicked “SIM Only” and there&#039;s a clear link to “terms apply” - which says just what is quoted in the post.

However wrong it is – its there. Getting angry with them (or other people calling them names) is unlikely to change anything. 02 are owned by a £multi-billion international company - “computer says no”.

Unless you want to take up the “advertising standards” torch on the general “unlimited” con trick of all companies........there&#039;s only one solution......and it may not be popular:

“USE THE PHONE LESS”

Honestly – if you&#039;re not in the office, or at home, enjoy and absorb the world around you – engage in that world – the here and the now of where you are and who you&#039;re with. There is nothing that 02 or anyone could possibly stream to your phone than is more amazing than just looking up at the sky.

Seriously......bin the phone. Buy one to make calls if needs must occasionally – but you really really really really don&#039;t need to be blasting your head with ucky phone waves on the move. Enjoy the world around you instead.

Off my hippy soapbox now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, every mobile network under the sun (and many ISPs) claim “unlimited” this that and the other – and of course there&#8217;s always a crafty disclaimer that unlimited doesn&#8217;t mean unlimited – so hell knows how any of them get away with it. On that point, I&#8217;ll get my pitch fork and join everyone else in the rebellion.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, however wrong it is that “unlimited” is actually limited – 02&#8217;s little get-out clause isn&#8217;t really that buried. I&#8217;ve just been to their online shop, clicked “SIM Only” and there&#8217;s a clear link to “terms apply” &#8211; which says just what is quoted in the post.</p>
<p>However wrong it is – its there. Getting angry with them (or other people calling them names) is unlikely to change anything. 02 are owned by a £multi-billion international company &#8211; “computer says no”.</p>
<p>Unless you want to take up the “advertising standards” torch on the general “unlimited” con trick of all companies&#8230;&#8230;..there&#8217;s only one solution&#8230;&#8230;and it may not be popular:</p>
<p>“USE THE PHONE LESS”</p>
<p>Honestly – if you&#8217;re not in the office, or at home, enjoy and absorb the world around you – engage in that world – the here and the now of where you are and who you&#8217;re with. There is nothing that 02 or anyone could possibly stream to your phone than is more amazing than just looking up at the sky.</p>
<p>Seriously&#8230;&#8230;bin the phone. Buy one to make calls if needs must occasionally – but you really really really really don&#8217;t need to be blasting your head with ucky phone waves on the move. Enjoy the world around you instead.</p>
<p>Off my hippy soapbox now.</p>
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