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	<title>Comments on: Birmingham Mail relaunch</title>
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		<title>By: David Black</title>
		<link>http://www.joannageary.com/2008/02/04/birmingham-mail-relaunch/comment-page-1/#comment-331</link>
		<dc:creator>David Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 11:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stef/Pete - We are big fans of both MT and Wordpress - they are both great at what they do, and we spent quite a while looking at each. (And several of the team use Wordpress or MT for their own blogs.) MT had the edge for us in some of the tools needed to manage a network of several hundred blogs. And it&#039;s been pretty flexible for the kinds of things we&#039;ve been experimenting with, too: from blogs, to blog-based newspaper sites, to hyperlocal sites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stef/Pete &#8211; We are big fans of both MT and Wordpress &#8211; they are both great at what they do, and we spent quite a while looking at each. (And several of the team use Wordpress or MT for their own blogs.) MT had the edge for us in some of the tools needed to manage a network of several hundred blogs. And it&#8217;s been pretty flexible for the kinds of things we&#8217;ve been experimenting with, too: from blogs, to blog-based newspaper sites, to hyperlocal sites.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Ashton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Ashton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MT is generally seen as a business blogging platform and it is a pretty decent piece of kit if you want something more akin to a CMS. In the end though I suspect the management trust something with a price tag over free.

Possibly less frequent upgrades too. WP seems to release bug fixes a he&#039;ll of a lot. MT might not be so flexible but it&#039;s pretty stable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MT is generally seen as a business blogging platform and it is a pretty decent piece of kit if you want something more akin to a CMS. In the end though I suspect the management trust something with a price tag over free.</p>
<p>Possibly less frequent upgrades too. WP seems to release bug fixes a he&#8217;ll of a lot. MT might not be so flexible but it&#8217;s pretty stable.</p>
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		<title>By: Stef Lewandowski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stef Lewandowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And it looks like it&#039;s Movable Type in the blogs. Here&#039;s me thinking Wordpress had won that platform war...

And Technorati in the sidebar on a local news(paper?) site - &#039;whodathunkit&#039;?

And an &#039;epaper&#039; version? Nice - http://epaper.icmidlands.co.uk/

A few minor bits here and there - the &#039;rate this&#039; should be at the bottom of the article - &quot;I haven&#039;t read it yet&quot;, for instance. http://www.birminghammail.net/what-is-on-in-birmingham/theatre-in-birmingham/2008/02/01/wedding-singer-on-the-stage-97319-20424024/

On the whole it&#039;s not the prettiest site visually, but the Mail isn&#039;t the prettiest newspaper - it&#039;s not supposed to be. I might give this one a review on my own blog- some interesting thoughts coming out of this.

Stef</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And it looks like it&#8217;s Movable Type in the blogs. Here&#8217;s me thinking Wordpress had won that platform war&#8230;</p>
<p>And Technorati in the sidebar on a local news(paper?) site &#8211; &#8216;whodathunkit&#8217;?</p>
<p>And an &#8216;epaper&#8217; version? Nice &#8211; <a href="http://epaper.icmidlands.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">http://epaper.icmidlands.co.uk/</a></p>
<p>A few minor bits here and there &#8211; the &#8216;rate this&#8217; should be at the bottom of the article &#8211; &#8220;I haven&#8217;t read it yet&#8221;, for instance. <a href="http://www.birminghammail.net/what-is-on-in-birmingham/theatre-in-birmingham/2008/02/01/wedding-singer-on-the-stage-97319-20424024/" rel="nofollow">http://www.birminghammail.net/what-is-on-in-birmingham/theatre-in-birmingham/2008/02/01/wedding-singer-on-the-stage-97319-20424024/</a></p>
<p>On the whole it&#8217;s not the prettiest site visually, but the Mail isn&#8217;t the prettiest newspaper &#8211; it&#8217;s not supposed to be. I might give this one a review on my own blog- some interesting thoughts coming out of this.</p>
<p>Stef</p>
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		<title>By: joannageary</title>
		<link>http://www.joannageary.com/2008/02/04/birmingham-mail-relaunch/comment-page-1/#comment-328</link>
		<dc:creator>joannageary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 08:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I noticed that too (yours is there now, I think.

I posted one at about 9pm at night and it didn&#039;t appear until after 7am the following day. As most of the Mail staff (it being an evening paper) are gone by 6pm, and a new shift doesn&#039;t start until 7am, that would make sense.

But you&#039;re right, a &quot;your comments are being held until moderated&quot; button would be good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I noticed that too (yours is there now, I think.</p>
<p>I posted one at about 9pm at night and it didn&#8217;t appear until after 7am the following day. As most of the Mail staff (it being an evening paper) are gone by 6pm, and a new shift doesn&#8217;t start until 7am, that would make sense.</p>
<p>But you&#8217;re right, a &#8220;your comments are being held until moderated&#8221; button would be good.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Ashton</title>
		<link>http://www.joannageary.com/2008/02/04/birmingham-mail-relaunch/comment-page-1/#comment-327</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Ashton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 21:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>left a comment on the editor&#039;s blog, hit submit and it vanished. Presumably it&#039;s in moderation but some indication of success or otherwise would be nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>left a comment on the editor&#8217;s blog, hit submit and it vanished. Presumably it&#8217;s in moderation but some indication of success or otherwise would be nice.</p>
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		<title>By: bounder</title>
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		<dc:creator>bounder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope the Post&#039;s layout will be cleaner - perhaps more text rather than pictures.

No truncated articles.

Journalist pages/feeds - so we can follow our favourites ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope the Post&#8217;s layout will be cleaner &#8211; perhaps more text rather than pictures.</p>
<p>No truncated articles.</p>
<p>Journalist pages/feeds &#8211; so we can follow our favourites <img src='http://www.joannageary.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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