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		<title>By: joannageary</title>
		<link>http://www.joannageary.com/2008/01/17/today-and-the-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-284</link>
		<dc:creator>joannageary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 11:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Martin!

Profile of Steve &lt;a href=&quot;http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/steve_hewlett/profile.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

PS. There&#039;s suddenly a lot of Martins around here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Martin!</p>
<p>Profile of Steve <a href="http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/steve_hewlett/profile.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
<p>PS. There&#8217;s suddenly a lot of Martins around here!</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 09:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, I misspelled Steve Hewlett&#039;s name...

In addition to Shane&#039;s comment on it, there were some far more interesting comments on this issue by &lt;a href=&quot;http://virtualeconomics.typepad.com/virtualeconomics/2008/01/what-did-news-a.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Seamus McCauley&lt;/a&gt; and BBC News website editor &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/podsandblogs/2008/01/podcast_notes_polls_google_and.shtml
&quot;&gt;Steve Herrmann&lt;/a&gt; on Pods &amp; Blogs the other day.

Of course that programme is on Five Live, which was described in the Today package as &quot;those populists down the hall&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, I misspelled Steve Hewlett&#8217;s name&#8230;</p>
<p>In addition to Shane&#8217;s comment on it, there were some far more interesting comments on this issue by <a href="http://virtualeconomics.typepad.com/virtualeconomics/2008/01/what-did-news-a.html" rel="nofollow">Seamus McCauley</a> and BBC News website editor <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/podsandblogs/2008/01/podcast_notes_polls_google_and.shtml<br />
">Steve Herrmann</a> on Pods &amp; Blogs the other day.</p>
<p>Of course that programme is on Five Live, which was described in the Today package as &#8220;those populists down the hall&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: joannageary</title>
		<link>http://www.joannageary.com/2008/01/17/today-and-the-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-282</link>
		<dc:creator>joannageary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Martin,

Thanks for the link.

Shane&#039;s assessment certainly rings true with me. When I check bbc.co.uk, it&#039;s always to see what the headlines are (sometimes I prefer to read a properly laid out webpage than text from the wire). But I also always check the most read section because I know that&#039;s where I&#039;ll find a few &quot;quirkies&quot;.

This must make the &quot;Most Read&quot; section self-reinforcing.It would be fascinating to see the stats on behind it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Martin,</p>
<p>Thanks for the link.</p>
<p>Shane&#8217;s assessment certainly rings true with me. When I check bbc.co.uk, it&#8217;s always to see what the headlines are (sometimes I prefer to read a properly laid out webpage than text from the wire). But I also always check the most read section because I know that&#8217;s where I&#8217;ll find a few &#8220;quirkies&#8221;.</p>
<p>This must make the &#8220;Most Read&#8221; section self-reinforcing.It would be fascinating to see the stats on behind it.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Belam</title>
		<link>http://www.joannageary.com/2008/01/17/today-and-the-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-281</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Belam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 06:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shane Richmond wrote an interesting piece about why he thinks these &#039;man marries goat&#039; and &#039;sex with bicycle&#039; news stories float to the top of the most read lists.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/technology/shanerichmond/jan08/popularity.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shane Richmond wrote an interesting piece about why he thinks these &#8216;man marries goat&#8217; and &#8217;sex with bicycle&#8217; news stories float to the top of the most read lists.</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/technology/shanerichmond/jan08/popularity.htm" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/technology/shanerichmond/jan08/popularity.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: joannageary</title>
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		<dc:creator>joannageary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 14:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Martin,

Being a very regular Radio 4 listener may explain why I said &quot;try and appear objective&quot; rather than &quot;try to be objective&quot;.

To be honest, I don&#039;t think anyone who tells a story about something can ever achieve objectivity anyway. They can try and be fair, even balanced, but objective... I don&#039;t know. Anyway, that is a different debate entirely.

What surprised me was that Today was employing anything-but-subtle bias. It was more sustained-pummeling-in-the-face-with-a-brick bias, which is unusual for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Martin,</p>
<p>Being a very regular Radio 4 listener may explain why I said &#8220;try and appear objective&#8221; rather than &#8220;try to be objective&#8221;.</p>
<p>To be honest, I don&#8217;t think anyone who tells a story about something can ever achieve objectivity anyway. They can try and be fair, even balanced, but objective&#8230; I don&#8217;t know. Anyway, that is a different debate entirely.</p>
<p>What surprised me was that Today was employing anything-but-subtle bias. It was more sustained-pummeling-in-the-face-with-a-brick bias, which is unusual for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Hammond</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Hammond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;it made absolutely no effort to even try and appear objective.&quot;

How long have you been listening to Today?  They are notorious for subtle bias and slanting stories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;it made absolutely no effort to even try and appear objective.&#8221;</p>
<p>How long have you been listening to Today?  They are notorious for subtle bias and slanting stories.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Ashton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Ashton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t catch the segment but I can imagine the tone very clearly.

What strikes me about this is that we don&#039;t necessarily want our newspapers and sites to just be full of what we actually read. I confess to occasionally reading Royal stories but I&#039;d be happy if the BBC never published them. Similarly I didn&#039;t read all the Bhuto coverage but I wanted there to be a lot of it above the fold.

There&#039;s a context here. I might not read the political coverage of the Guardian but it&#039;s an important part of the paper and influences the style of the more fluffy pieces I do read.

In other words, news should not be dictated by what people want to hear. It should be the news. And, whatever the stats show, people generally like it that way, even if they don&#039;t read it in depth.

Or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t catch the segment but I can imagine the tone very clearly.</p>
<p>What strikes me about this is that we don&#8217;t necessarily want our newspapers and sites to just be full of what we actually read. I confess to occasionally reading Royal stories but I&#8217;d be happy if the BBC never published them. Similarly I didn&#8217;t read all the Bhuto coverage but I wanted there to be a lot of it above the fold.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a context here. I might not read the political coverage of the Guardian but it&#8217;s an important part of the paper and influences the style of the more fluffy pieces I do read.</p>
<p>In other words, news should not be dictated by what people want to hear. It should be the news. And, whatever the stats show, people generally like it that way, even if they don&#8217;t read it in depth.</p>
<p>Or something.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Harte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Harte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 10:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want to have a continuous update on what the BBC want us to read on their website, as compared to what we actually read then take a look at &lt;a href=&quot;http://cgriley.com/bbctouch/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this site&lt;/a&gt;.

At the time of writing the BBC was &quot;13% in touch with what we&#039;re reading&quot;.

Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to have a continuous update on what the BBC want us to read on their website, as compared to what we actually read then take a look at <a href="http://cgriley.com/bbctouch/" rel="nofollow">this site</a>.</p>
<p>At the time of writing the BBC was &#8220;13% in touch with what we&#8217;re reading&#8221;.</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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